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Your Questions About Medicare Advantage Plans

Daniel asks…


what’s the best Medicare Advantage plan?

When I lived in FL, Medicare Advantage programs (Freedom & Optimum) paid our Part B, covered dental, glasses, hearing aids…

Now I’m in Hawaii; no plans here cover Part B OR Dental. Why is Hawaii discriminated against?
Why do Feds give more money to FL than HI?

AARP Med. supplement is about $77/mo. TV ad says it pays part B but their literature says nothing about that. $96 (Part B) + $77 seems a bit much for a single lady. I think I’ll just buy meds from Canada or Mexico. Any ideas?

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

I live in Pa. And pay $165.50 a month each for AARP plus $44. A month each to belong to the drug program so I can get meds at 15% of their over inflated price plus what medicare takes out of the check for part B I can’t remember what that is now. We are paying more for health care than we ever did in our lives and people keep acting as if people on social security are getting everything for free. We are living on our savings and watching them disappear quickly. The only good thing we have to look forward to is that we will be dead soon. Ah, the golden years.


Ken asks…

Could someone please explain the difference between Medicare “Supplemental” & “Advantage” Plans ?

I do need Part D as well. I am in good health, Medicare Parts A & B for me begins April 1. I’m going nuts trying to understand and keep the cost down for them. In simple terms. Thank you.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

A medicare supplement is simply another insurance policy, carried by private companies, to cover part or all of what A and B don’t pay. Designated by letters A thru G or H. Cost about $80 to $180 per month. Been around for years. Plan F for instance pays the best and cost the most.

Medicare Advantage Plans were cooked up by the Bush administration as a way to partially privatize Medicare by throwing the insurance companies a big carrot. They are paid a fixed amount for each person they insure that is about 10% more than it cost traditional Medicare. There are moves affoot in Congress to reduce this premium.

The Advantage plans range in cost from $0 to about $60, depending on where you live, and you still got to pay for Medicare part B. A lot offer a drug plan. If you sign up, you are no longer in the Medicare system. And, all have deductables and copays. Their main advantage seems to be the lower cost. This is fine if you’re healthy, live a healthy lifestyle, and have some savings to pay the higher hospital and doctor bills if you become seriously ill or have a bad accident. Or, if your montly income just won’t allow you to buy one of the standard supplements.

It’s a mine field out there!!! Be careful. Read the fine print and ask lots of questions. You might check with your doctors office and/or your local hospital for guidance.

If you can afford the standard supplements, I’d stick with them for now. Plan F pays about everything, no questions ask.

Good Luck! You need it.

Lizzie asks…

Medicare Advantage vs. Original Medicare + Medigap?

My father has original Medicare + Medigap + a separate part D plan. The total cost for the Medigap and Part D premiums is around $4000 per year, with the bulk being the Medigap. The Medicare Advantage plans seem so much less expensive. For example, the Humana PPO plan would cost around $700 per year and includes the part D coverage. His doctors and local hospitals are on their list, so that’s not a problem.

So my question is this – what is the catch? I understand that the advantage plans have copays that add to the cost, but doesn’t the out of pocket maximum limit the total annual copay cost? Under what circumstances would the additional cost of Medigap be worth it? What are the pitfalls of Medicare Advantage Plans?

Thanks in advance for all answers!

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

The catch is that with a Med Advantage plan you may have deductibles and hospital co-pays that add up quickly. Under a Medigap you’d be covered around 100%.

For example, if your dad had an accident and broke his hip. He’d first go to the Hospital and get hit with a $1100 – $500 deductible just for being admitted. After the first 7 days he may have to pay $100+ per day If he had to go to a Rehab center for a new weeks for physical therapy, He’d have a per day charge there as well. The total cost for his broken hip could be over $5000 after the Med Advantage plan paid their part.

If you dad is healthy it may be worth the risk to go ahead with the advantage plan. If he has a lot of falls or hospitalizations it would be better to stay with the Medigap

Robert asks…

Health insurance primary (thur my work) and secondary (medicare advantage plan)?

I have health care insurance through my work for my wife and myself. My wife also has Secure Horizons medicare advantage plan because she’s disabled. Can the two insurances work together and how or should I do away with the medicare advantage plan and save the $90+ ammonth?
My employeer plan is Cigna PPO, with all of our doctors being in the network. So all we have to deal with typically is co-pays. With some of my wifes new treatments I’m not wanting to run into the problem of picking up the full tab on things that may not be covered by my primary. I guess my question is: How do I make the two work together? Assuming that theres going to be alot of Out of Pocket costs.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

It’s not Secure Horizons that has the premium; most Secure Horizons plans have a $0 premium. It is Medicare Part B that has the $96.40 premium.

Secure Horizons has several different types of Medicare Advantage plans. The most common is an HMO but they also have a PPO and a PFFS plan depending on your area. The HMO & PPO have doctor networks, the PFFS does not.

If she has the HMO the Cigna doctor must be in the network or S.H. Won’t pay anything. If it is a PPO it may or may not pay anything; it will depend on if the Cigna doctor is in the network and what the procedures are. S.H will coordinate the benefits with the PPO if the doctor is in network but may not pay out because of what Cigna has already paid. If it is the PFFS the doctor must be willing to accept the plan but again it will depend on the procedure whether or not it will pay.

You will have to talk with both the Cigna and the Secure Horizons agents. If you give up S.H. It won’t save you any money. You must also give up Medicare Part B and depending on your current plan and her particular situation that may or may not be easy to do. You’d have to contact Medicare or your S.H. Agent for guidance.

If you give up Part B she’ll still have Medicare Part A which may help pay for hospitalization after a $1024 out-of-pocket deductible.

Mary asks…

I am 70 years old still working full time, receiving social security and have a medicare advantage plan?

My employer has an excellent medical group plan, if i would want to join the plan (of course i would have to pay the employees share like everyone else) what would happen to my medicare advantage plan….do i leave the advantage and go into traditional medicare, .what would happen when i leave my employment will i be able to get back into a plan? I would like to take advantage of this great employer plan but want to know more about the abc’s related to my medicare benefits…etc. etc. Any help including where i could go for answers,preferably face to face is appreciated. thank you

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Tread carefully, because you don’t want to accidently lose out on your Medicare benefits on a technicality, or even worse, get hit with a penalty when you have to go back on Medicare full-time.
First, review the policy carefully, to make sure it is actually worth it to switch from your Medicare/Advantage plans to this employer plan with Medicare as a secondary. Review the prescription benefits, any limitations for rehabilitation, co-pays/out of pocket max, etc, as well as the amounts you will need to contribute.
Also realize that there may be a penalty for canceling your Advantage plan in the middle of the benefit year?
If you do decide to switch, make an appointment with the benefits advisor at your company to review your choices; that is the person who knows the insurance benefits inside and out, and can advise you on how to proceed.

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Your Questions About Medicare Advantage Plans

Ruth asks…

I will have to cancel my medicare advantage plan when that happens will I get regular medicare?

I had a part time job and lost it now I can’t afford the premiums

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Check to see if there are any $0 premium Medicare Advantage plans or plans with a lower premium in your area. You have until March 31 (Open Enrollment Period) to change to a “like” plan.

Medicare has very strict regulations. If your current plan has drug coverage you can switch to another plan that has drug coverage during OEP. You can switch to a Medicare Advantage PFFS plan without drug coverage and pick up a stand alone drug plan. You can purchase a stand alone drug plan, which will automatically cancel the Advantage plan and will put on original Medicare.

You cannot change to a Medicare Advantage PPO or HMO without drug coverage during this period and you cannot just drop your Medicare Advantage plan.

If you are also on Medicaid the regulations differ.

William asks…

California Medicare Advantage plan choices?

I am trying to help my parents choose a Medicare Advantage plan during open enrollment. They live in San Franciso. Any thoughts or experiences with plans would be very helpful. I have been studying web sites/books and calling providers. I still don’t feel I can help them decide. Anyone know about the BlueCross SmartValue or Freedom Blue plans? Or any other plans?
Thank you.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Take a look at HealthNet’s new “fee-for-service” plan and how it hooks up with Medicare Part D. Currently, I think it’s one of the better designed plans out there.

Maria asks…

What is the best overall Medicare Advantage plan?

I need one that pays the most for medications-What is the “gap”

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

First an explanation of drug coverage. These figures are for 2009 and will change next year.

Medicare set up drug coverage as follows. First a $295 deductible, which most plan do away with. Then you are in “initial coverage” where you pay ~25% of the drug costs. Most plans will have a set co-pay instead of a percentage but it averages out to ~25%. Then you go into the coverage gap or “donut hole” where you pay 100% of the drug cost. You will not pay retail but will pay the negotiated cost that the insurance company has with the pharmaceutical company. This will vary by medication and company. After you’ve paid out a total of $4350 out of pocket you then go into “catastrophic coverage” where you pay ~5% of the cost. Again, most companies have a set co-pay. The companies have set up tier levels for the medications. Generally, there are 4 tier levels but some companies can have 5 or 6; your cost will be lower if a medication is in a lower tier. Any particular medication could be in a different tier level with a different company.

There is no one best overall Medicare Advantage plan. Drug costs will vary widely by plan depending upon what medications you are taking. You will need to analyze what you are taking with each company or find an agent that can do it for you. One example: I have a client and I did a cost analysis of his medications. The total monthly cost for his meds (that he and the insurance company paid) with the 15 least costly plans available to him ranged from $3182 to $4910 (needless to say he went into the donut hole). More than 15 plans were available but I did not keep a record the higher cost plans. His actual total ANNUAL cost for those top 15 plans ranged from $3299 to $7121, which is a big difference. The point is, most of the plans that usually and regularly come in cheaper were in the $6000 – $7000 range.

Mark asks…

Are there any downsides to joining a Medicare Advantage Plan that claims to have all the benefits of…?

…regular Medicare plus added benefits that regular Medicare does not have at no additional cost?

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

All Medicare Advantage plans must follow the template put forth by Medicare so their claims are valid.

The downsides are:

-You have co-pays for Medical procedures which can add up.
-Some types have doctor network and all have restrictions to which doctors you can see.
-Not all doctors accepting Medicare will accept the Advantage plans.
-With some plans, such as the PFFS plans, doctors can choose not to accept it at any time, even if they just saw you yesterday and accepted the plan at that time.
-They may only have emergency and urgent care services available if you are in a different state so if you spend a lot of time away from home you may run into trouble getting care for minor ailments.
-They change every year so you need to check every year to make sure the plan you have is still the best one for you.
-They are funded primarily by Medicare so as Medicare cuts back costs in response to the health care bill your co-pays will increase. Also, many plans that have a $0 premium now will probably have to start charging a premium.
-There is a lot of confusion to the different types. Depending upon your area there are HMO, PPO, PFFS, SNP, MSA, DUAL, COST, and PACE plans available.
-The plans are county specific so if you move out of the service area you’ll need to get another plan.
-They are subject to Medicare “lock-in” which means you can only change plans once per year.

The upsides are:

-The premium is low or even $0 for many plans so it is much cheaper than a Medicare Supplement.
-Most plans include drug coverage.
-If your doctor accepts the plan or you do little traveling they can be very cost effective.
-Skilled nursing facility stays are not subject to the three day hospital stay requirement.
-Thay have additional benefits, such as an annual physical.
-Some have dental, vision and hearing benefits.
-There are no pre-existing limitations except if you have ESRD.

In summary, a Medicare Advantage plan will generally be better for you that just Medicare. Whether it’s better or worse than a Medicare Supplement depends upon your particular situation. I’d recommend visiting a local agent that works with all the major companies in your area and offers both Medicare Advantage plans and Medicare Supplements. The agent can explain how each plan works and find the best plan for you. There is no extra charge using an agent and you’ll have someone local should you have questions or problems in the future.

Laura asks…

Where can I get a list of Medicare HMO plans?

Looking for a list of Medicare HMO plans, aka: PFFS plans, Advantage plans, Plus Plans, etc…for my customer service team @ work. Can anyone site a website of a list I could print?

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

It’s going to vary wildly by state.

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Your Questions About Medicare Supplement Insurance

Donald asks…

I would like to know if anyone knows of an affordable Medicare health insurance supplement in Arizona?

Thank you for your input!

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

You’ll want to contact an independent agent that deals with senior policies. There are many Medicare Advantage plans and Medicare Supplement plans available in Arizona with premiums running from $0 to around $160 per month. Some of the Medicare Advantage plans have the Part D prescription drug coverage included. If you get a Medicare Advantage plan without part D or a supplement you will need a stand-alone Part D plan. You are not required to get a plan but there are restrictions and penalties when you do get on a drug plan.

The drug coverage is one of the biggest differences between plans. There can be several thousand dollars difference in co-pays over a year. My most drastic example in co-pay differences is $48,000, this was the difference with one medication on the formulary with one plan and not on the formulary with another as well as the dredded “donut hole”.

Linda asks…

what is the best supplement insurance for senoir citizens on medicare which also covers dental in Ohio area?

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Medicare Supplement do not include dental. Some Medicare Advantage plans do have some dental included but the coverage is not very inclusive. You should visit a local independent agent that works with senior policies to find the best plan for your situation in Ohio. The agent should also have dental plans available if you can’t find a Medicare Advantage plan with decent coverage.

Laura asks…

I work in a nursing facility and need to know where I can get phone #’s for medicare co-insurance companies?

I work in a nursing facility in the admissions office and need to verify insurance prior to admitting a resident. I need phone #’s for insurance companies which are a supplement to medicare such as AARP, Aetna, BCBS, Cigna, United Health Care, Bankers Life, Humana Gold,and other insurance companies. Is there a list of these phone #’s? (toll free preferably but if not, other phone #’s will do) I need them to verify insurance coverage for residents.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

I would suggest calling your State Insurance Commissioner’s office. They would also have phone numbers for the insurance companies that provide coverage and, I’m betting, would have a publication or list of Medicare supplemental policies. This office is responsible for every insurance policy sold in your state. Good folks to know. Check it out! Good luck!

Richard asks…

I’m licensed to sell life insurance, medicare supplements, annuities and long term care…?

Do I qualify for a medical billing job? I heard it might be so…

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Why would you want a job making $7 an hour, when you have unlimited potential selling???

Ken asks…

MEDICARE A & B – What do you consider Medicare Supplement Plan/Ins?

Hello, please comment. We do not know which is the best insurance plan would be that supplements Medicare A & B. Let’s say ‘relatively’ money is not a consideration at this time.

We need to know what you think is the best (from experience).

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

It is very confusing. Depending upon what state and county you’re in there can be 25 to 50 Medicare Advantage plans (Part C), 40 to 55 stand alone Part D plans, and many supplement plans available. You’ll want to visit a local independent agent that represents many of these plans so you can compare the plans in one place. You do not pay anything extra if you use an agent.

Many Medicare Advantage plans include drug coverage. If you get a supplement or a Medicare Advantage plan without drug coverage you’ll need a separate stand alone Part D plan. The premium for the Medicare Advantage plans can be as low as $0. The premium for the supplement can vary widely (from around $100 to over $350 per month) depending upon the plan, your age, and health conditions. The Part D premium can run from $10 to nearly $100 per month.

Some things to consider. What drugs are you currently taking and does the plan cover those medications? What is your current health condition? Generally speaking, if you use medical services 2 or 3 times per month a supplement will be better; if you use medical services 2 or 3 times per year a Medicare Advantage plan will be better. If you want to keep your current doctor will he accept the Medicare Advantage plan? Are you comfortable paying the higher premium for a supplement with very little (if any) out of pocket costs or would you be better off with a lower premium Medicare Advantage plan that has small co-pays?

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Your Questions About Medicare Advantage Plans

Chris asks…

Are Medicare Advantage plans better than the original medicare?

I’m about to apply for medicare benefits. I’ve surveyed the benefits of orignal medicare verses Medicare AAdvantage Plans.

they have this so screwed up it would take a degree in medicare to figure out which is best.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

So. Lets just say I have as close to a degree in Medicare as you’re going to find in the Middle Tennessee area. I can tell you how to answer the question for yourself. Your answer depends on several factors. The first thing here is going to be pretty simple to determine, do the doctors in your area take the medicare advantage plan you’re looking at? Look at some plan summaries and call the doctors you plan to use. There is a 0 dollar plan in a few TN counties that is FANTASTIC from BlueCross BlueShield of TN, or in others there is a HMO from Healthspring, and they’re great. Frankly in the counties where BCBST has that 0 dollar plan I won’t suggest any other MA plans. In other areas there is a Humana plan that, no joke, the hospital in a town it can be sold in will not take it. The big advantage you’re going to have with most any MA plan is that there is an out of pocket limit, with original medicare there is not. There is typically no deductible, and usually the co-payments are very reasonable. A lot of them are going to have prescription drug benefits, and again, with original medicare there is no prescription drug benefit without adding a part D plan.

There are 3 different types of coverage in MA plans, HMO, PPO, and PFFS. HMO is network only, other than emergency, you HAVE to use in network doctors. PPO is cheaper if you use in network, but you can choose to use outside doctors. PFFS has no network, but the doctor can decide on a case by case basis if they will accept the plan conditions. They can at ANY TIME say, sorry we aren’t going to accept this plan anymore, and refuse to provide care. It is an unlikely scenario, but it can happen. With any of these plans you are supposed to live within the plan area for most of the year. They are not great plans for travelers in general. If you go out of town a lot, medicare supplement plans are probably better for you. The benefits available with supplements again are going to depend on the state and county you are in. I do not have knowledge of every state’s available plans. In my state, the F supplement is the easiest to understand. It covers 100% of all deductibles and all co-payments for medicare approved services. You do not pay anything more than the F premium monthly. Since you are about to become eligible I would strongly suggest looking at F supplements if they are available in your area, because when you first become eligible by turning 65 or leaving your employer group coverage a F supplement is guaranteed issue and subject to no medical underwriting.

I would personally suggest looking for an independent local agent that can help you out with this, so if you need questions answered they can help you out later on down the line. That is the first thing I would do if I was in your situation. Find someone you can trust, make sure they’re licensed, and make sure they carry a variety of products. Prices change rapidly, you do not want to have to change your agent because a medicare supplement price went up a lot and someone else’s is now the best deal in your market but they do not sell it. You need to find someone that can help you fit with a plan that will be crafted to your individual health and needs. It takes a lot of research even for an agent that knows what all the plan options mean to understand the different plans in any given area. If you are in TN I’d be happy to help you, but I typically try to only work in about a 50-100 mile range of my home, so if I need to visit someone in person I can.

Paul asks…

prresidents speech the other night – did he say anything about eliminating all medicare advantage plans?

i watched and did NOT hear this. my husband watched and heard him say it. please help.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

He is not currently planning to eliminate the Medicare Advantage plans. The house bill in section 1161 has a reduction in payment to those plans, which will result in you paying higher premiums and/or co-pays. Section 1162 will give the Medicare Advantage plans a bonus payment if they are rated as a “High Quality Plan”. The quality is based on several items, most of which are out of control of the plan, and to qualify for the bonus the plan must be in the top 20%. They’ll measure such items as admission and readmission to hospitals and measure of patient mortality following surgery. Who really knows how this will affect you or the plans.

Section 1181 stipulates that drug companies must rebate the cost of medication for people who are also on Medicaid. The rebate doesn’t go to the beneficiaries but to the government. This will cause drug co-pays for everyone to increase.

Section 1182 stipulates that drug companies must discount certain medications (to be determined) during the donut hole, which will also increase drug co-pays.

Section 1151 will reduce payments to hospitals and doctors if you are readmitted to the hospital. This will result in longer hospitals stays which will cause the Medicare Advantage plans to increase the inpatient hospital co-pay. It will also result in overcrowding of hospitals because hospitals will be forbidden to increase their capacity in many cases.

Daniel asks…

how long will medicare advantage plans be around?

the math just is not workin out. Someone is taking a loss in this equation. i dont see how the plans are free, pay the agent 300-450 dollars. i know cms pays like 8,000 a year to pay the premiums. i dont get why they would pay that. if it is to save cms money then it would be costing the insurance company. someone please enlighten me.

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Remember that employers and employees not covered by Medicare are still paying into the system. No one knows how long Medicare Advantage will be around. Some hospitals do not accept and seem to rather wait for the traditional Medicare to pay them directly, even though they receive limited money for each service rendered.

The amount to the agent is not huge. On most health and insurance products we get a larger commission during the first year and then a small amount in the following years if the products are renewed. Sometimes we are charged back if the product is cancelled. There is no additional compensation paid to agents after the initial payment that I’m aware of.

George asks…

Why not abolish govt Medicare and replace it with Medicare Advantage plans for all seniors?

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

Because we don’t know what is in it until we pass it.

Nancy? Is that you?

Nancy asks…

Does Competition Among Medicare Advantage Plans Matter?

Medicare Advantage Plans – explain in detail…

Medicare Insurance AZ staff answers:

I’m not going to do your homework for you other than to say competition always matters except in very few cases.

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